Re: [LAD] Smallest, simplest, silliest SDR?

From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@email-addr-hidden>
Date: Sun Feb 28 2010 - 05:50:02 EET

On Saturday 27 February 2010, Folderol wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 00:50:07 +0000
>
>Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
>> On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 01:41 +0100, fons@email-addr-hidden wrote:
>> > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:40:00AM +0000, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
>> > > I wanted a very simple SDR with jack inputs and outputs for a
>> > > demonstration I was doing. I had a look at the DSP guts of dttsp and
>> > > quisk, and sat down to code.
>> >
>> > Forgive my ignorance, but what is an SDR ?
>>
>> Software-Defined Radio. Basically you downmix incoming RF to the audio
>> range with two mixers fed 90 degrees out of phase. You can then munge
>> this in various different ways to tune and demodulate various different
>> radio signals.
>>
>> Gordon MM0YEQ
>
>Sounds suspiciously like some form of quadrature demodulator. Rather
>like GEC/Sobel introduced with their 1018 TV chassis in the 1960s.
>Oh how we laughed ...

Why were you laughing? Zenith did this, with a self excited circuit, using a
type 6BN6 gated beam tube to recover the audio directly from the 4.5 mhz
inter carrier frequency, starting in the fall of '51 with the intro of the
'52 model year. It worked fairly well too. Stable, not sensitive to the
fine tuning setting, so folks out in the fringes could tune for a slightly
better if not as sharp a pix.

I even made a minor improvement to the circuit that reduced the AM
sensitivity noticeably that was incorporated into the next 3 years production
runs. I was all of 17 at the time and working in the service dept., the only
one, at a zenith wholesaler.

It still, like all tv's of the day, had some synch buzz, and it took the FCC
35 damned years to let us broadcasters fix that. As the CE of a tv station,
one of the things I did when they allowed us to experimentally reduce the
aural transmitters power output from 100% of visual to 20%, was to try 10% on
the sly, which helped even more. Then a year or so after I came to WV, I
thought 5% might be worth a try, but couldn't get even a bad final tube that
low, so I bypassed it one night, saving us many KW a day in electricity since
the final took 12 volts at 180 amps (2160 watts/hour just to light it up, and
used about 10KW/hour in high voltage draw) which took it down to about 900
watts from the driver stage output, compared to 26kw of visual, figuring I
would hook it back up if the phone started ringing.

18 years later the phone still hadn't rung. The tubes were out of production
& tired, and it was down to about 500 watts when we turned it off (NTSC) for
good. Nary a complaint in all that time about weak signal, not even from the
cable folks.

Quadrature detection works, and there are even some integrated circuits that
do that, they take an fm signal in, need about 6 parts including a tuned coil
circuit for the frequency of the fm input, work at less than 1% THD at 4.5
mhz with its +-25khz modulation, or about 1% THD at 10.7 mhz with its wider
modulation. If you need any lower THD than that, go find a 50 year old
McIntosh C8 tuner and restore it. They were, in their day, the absolute
cream of the crop and to my extended knowledge, such performance has never
been even close to duplicated at any price, and that one was con$iderable
when new in '60.

Yeah, I'll plead guilty to being an old fart, 75 now. And its been one hell
of a ride to get to this day. Mostly enjoyable, I'd do it again almost
exactly as it happened.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
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