Re: [LAD] twice as loud

On 23 July 2010 08:37, Arnold Krille <arnold@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thursday 22 July 2010 23:53:14 Philipp Überbacher wrote:
>> Excerpts from fons's message of 2010-07-22 23:24:24 +0200:
>> > We all agree on what 'red' means. Because we have learned
>> > the meaning of that word by association.  But do we 'see'
>> > the same thing ? AFAIK, that is impossible to verify.

We all agree on what red means; red is red; we agree that red is red.

Redness is not reducible to anything else, apparently:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualia

>> This however is a thing I did wonder about. The general question of
>> whether perception is the same for every human, whether colors are the
>> same and so on. It most likely is hard to impossible to verify, but I
>> have to assume it is at least similar. It's a very nice question for
>> sure.
>
> The problem is that if you 'ask' people to describe what they see and feel,
> they all use the same words and meaning because they where taught since
> childhood.
>
> I think one way to 'verify' is to let people express their reception of
> something in an artistic way. Be it words in literature or colors and shapes
> in arts or melodies in music.
> Only problem is that you have to interpret that again;-)
>
> Have fun,
>
> Arnold
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Received on Fri Jul 23 12:15:04 2010