Subject: RE: [linux-audio-user] Acid for Linux ?
From: Brian Redfern (bredfern_AT_calarts.edu)
Date: Mon Dec 09 2002 - 22:28:46 EET
Well, you can already load in audio files and edit their pitch/tempo in
ardour, and you have a multitrack layout, I don't think Ardour should
become some kind of clone of Acid, but to me a lot of the functionality
found in Acid is already there in the latest version of Ardour. I don't
think a "paintbrush" is needed, and its actually less flexable to limit
one audio file per track, but with the ability to edit a samples
pitch/tempo its already got most of the necessary functionality.
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Mark Knecht wrote:
> I disagree that Ardour is the right place to put Acid functionality.
> Ardour should continue down the path it's going, which will make it a great
> replacement for Pro Tools type requirements.
> IMO Acid functionality would be better placed in some other app, or being
> spawned as a new app.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-audio-user-admin_AT_music.columbia.edu
> [mailto:linux-audio-user-admin_AT_music.columbia.edu]On Behalf Of Brian
> Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 11:04 AM
> To: linux-audio-user_AT_music.columbia.edu
> Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Acid for Linux ?
> I think ardour is really getting closest to an acid clode, I used to use
> acid and came up with some very nice tunes a few years ago, so I know the
> interface well, terminatorX had some of its features, but it a loop
> player, while Acid lets you paint loops in with a little brush. If you
> really want to see that functionality, send Paul Davis a generous donation
> so he can keep working on ardour! tX does have automated beatmatching
> capability and can alter both tempo and pitch, it really has some features
> that Acid lacks, but its really for playing back loops or tracks and
> scratching/djing, rather than sequencing loops and sample hits. For me, I
> thought that acid is a little too easy, I like actually writing the music
> note by note, rather than relying on other people's loops, but for quite
> some time I have just been using lots of outboard synths and just used
> linux to record and master cd's. I'm finally getting muse to work and am
> looking at going "all linux", or just using iiwu and soundfonts, using
> muse to track and using jack/ardour to record, edit and master. Of course
> using outboard gear is easier, I can make up complete tracks with my korg
> electribe M in mere minutes, but at the same time my tracks will sound
> similar to all the other electribe based tracks being made, while with
> linux, muse, csound, ladspa, and ardour there's the oppurtunity to create
> a more unique, signature sound.
> On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> > Gerasimos Grammatikopoulos wrote:
> > > If someone told me "hey, what do you expect? there is only a given
> number of
> > > open source programmers familiar with the specific pains of music apps.
> > > either contribute or shut up" I'd have to agree with him. But saying
> > > music apps in linux/Unix _must_ be tougher to use than their
> > counterparts in
> > > other OSes is IMHO simply wrong.
> > >
> > I didn't.
> > AFAICT using alsaplayer with some effects almost achieves the same
> > results as acid. But I have never used ACID so I can't qualify that.
> > When I add the ability to set loop points then alsaplayer should be very
> > close.
> > There is also TerminatorX which achieves very similar results.
> > And another is spiral loops.
> > What is hard about these apps?
> > --
> > Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd.
> > For the discerning hardware connoisseur
> > http://www.boosthardware.com
> > http://www.djcj.org - The Linux Audio Users guide
> > ========================================
> > Being on stage with the band in front of crowds shouting, "Get off! No!
> > We want normal music!", I think that was more like acting than anything
> > I've ever done.
> > Goldie, 8 Nov, 2002
> > The Scotsman
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