Subject: [linux-audio-user] Trying to record audio from line in and additional questions
From: Sylvain Robitaille (lau_AT_therockgarden.ca)
Date: Sun Mar 23 2003 - 20:45:40 EET
First the vitals:
The computer system is a 400 MHz K6-2 with 512 MB memory, and a Hercules
Fortissimo II (Cirrus Logic Soundfusion CS4624 processor) sound card.
The OS is Linux-2.4.20 (built up from Slackware-8.0, with kernel patches
and package upgrades). I have the following ALSA components installed:
alsa-driver-0.9.0rc7, alsa-oss-0.9.0rc1, alsa-utils-0.9.0rc7,
alsa-lib-0.9.0rc7, alsa-tools-0.9.0rc7.
The kernel is mostly monolithic, with the following options (abridged to
include only those I know are relevant; if folks want the complete
listing, I can easily provide it):
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KMOD=y
CONFIG_LOLAT=y
CONFIG_LOLAT_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_RTC=y
CONFIG_SOUND=y
ALSA is the only component that I have modularized (only because I don't
have the impression it can easily be just built-in, actually), and the
following modules are loaded:
Module Size Used by
snd-mixer-oss 11120 1 (autoclean)
snd-cs46xx 58096 1 (autoclean)
snd-pcm 50752 0 (autoclean) [snd-cs46xx]
snd-timer 9392 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm]
snd-ac97-codec 26912 0 (autoclean) [snd-cs46xx]
snd-rawmidi 11808 0 (autoclean) [snd-cs46xx]
snd-seq-device 3824 0 (autoclean) [snd-rawmidi]
snd 27280 0 (autoclean) [snd-mixer-oss snd-cs46xx
snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec
snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]
I've been using Linux with OSS and a Media-Vision Pro-Audio-Studio-16
soundcard for years, and have basically had very little trouble with
that combination. Upgrading to Linux-2.4.x caused the sound output to
be rather noisy, so I recently took advantage of the situation to buy a
new soundcard, and upgrade to using ALSA (which I've been wanting to do
so I can investigate certain rather exciting applications such as Ardour
and the new Rosegarden).
The applications I've been using for years with OSS, (notably Dap,
Mixviews, Aumix, and a few others) all appear to mostly be working fine,
presumably through the ALSA OSS emulation. Aumixer now shows some
lables (PhoneIn and Video) which don't correspond to any inputs I have
on my soundcard, while some others (IGain and Line1) don't appear to
have any use, given the way I'm currently using the card (signal from a
hardware mixer going to the Line input, and signal from the main, front
line output going back to the mixer).
I can play back sound files without any problem. In fact I've also tried
a few new (to me) applications, such as Audacity, ProTux, and (though
I'm having problems with it I won't cover here) Ardour, and they too
play back sounds quite nicely (the sound is "grainy", though, perhaps I
need to investigate the Low-Latency issues more, or increase the size of
some buffer somewhere).
I can send sound to the computer, and listen to that sound coming back
from the computer (adjusting the level with the "line" level in Aumix,
for example), but if I try to record that sound (in any of the
applications I've tried, including all those listed above), with "record
enable" selected in Aumix, I get no audio recorded (silent sound file).
Also, I find it interesting to note that I can record-enable only one
input source at a time (contrary to my old Media-Vision card). I'm
assuming that's a function of the hardware, though and can't be fixed in
software?
Finally, we get to my questions:
- Can someone point me in the right direction(s) to find a solution to
this, so I can record audio (preferably from numerous sources) into
my computer? I'll be perfectly happy with pointers to documentation
(though I expect to get at least some to documentation I've already
read, because I think I've repeatedly gone through all the
documentation I already found myself), and suggestions to upgrade
certain components.
- I've tried to start Jackd at system boot, with the following command
added to my rc.local file:
/local/bin/jackd -d alsa -d cs46xx -p 512 &
Jackd fails to start at that point (I'm afraid I haven't noted the
exact error message, but I can make a point of doing so next time I
reboot the system), but it does start when run manually from a root
shell. Does anyone have any idea why jackd might not start at boot
time, (perhaps the ALSA modules aren't loaded yet at that time)? If
I understand my boot sequence properly, kernel modules are setup
(via "depmod -a") before rc.local is run, so the modules may not be
loaded, but they should by that point be loadable (they load
automatically by the kernel in regular use).
- Is it possible to build ALSA into the kernel?
- on a slightly unrelated point, my new soundcard has a built-in
synthesizer with at least some features I'd like to explore. Though
I know this won't replace any of my hardware synths (or some of the
software synths I've begun to play with), I'd like to play around
with some of its built-in sounds, and probably use it (at least
until I get something better) as my "preset playback" device,
controlled from an external MIDI controller. Does anyone have
suggestions for how I might go about that? (again, simple pointers
to existing documentation would be more than appreciated).
In case people are wondering about my specific intended application,
I'd like to use a Roland Octapad to trigger percussion sounds from
the soundcard's built-in synth.
Thanks in advance for any pointers people can provide....
-- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille syl_AT_alcor.concordia.caMajor in Electroacoustic Studies Concordia University Faculty of Fine Arts / Music Department Montreal, Quebec, Canada ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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