RE: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME hammerfall DSP Multiface: help needed

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Subject: RE: [linux-audio-user] Re: RME hammerfall DSP Multiface: help needed
From: Mark Knecht (mknecht_AT_controlnet.com)
Date: Mon Sep 08 2003 - 17:34:12 EEST


> > You are most certainly playing a mono signal through the OSS emulation
> > layer. With hdspmixer preset 1, you should have signal coming out of all
> > the physical outputs, and also a VERY LOUD signal on the line
> outs, as all
> > the playback channels are routed to the line outs and thus summed up.
>
> It was a *stereo* signal, as the meters show clearly different levels for
> left and right channels. But no signal on any meters in the last row.

OK, so this means that now a stereo signal is getting from alsaplayer into
the RME. For these meters to register at all the audio has to be in the
card, and it is, so that's good.

The fact that it's stereo now is a good sign.

If you have no meters on the last row, that is not good, but it doesn't
necessarily mean that the card will not produce audio. The green audio in
hdspmixer is read out of the card. If it's not being displayed, then one of
two things is happening:

1) Playback audio (wnd row) is not being routed to the outputs

2) hdspmixer is not reading the proper locations when trying to display t.

Either of these could be created by bad firmware. #1 could be caused by not
routing the audio manually.

You could try amixer commands by hand, like:

(Note - these are NOT the right ones for your hardware!!_

amixer cset numid=5 8,0,16000
amixer cset numid=5 9,1,16000

The numbers are typical bizarre Linux type numerical things. On my hardware,
with 26 inputs, I think it goes 0-25 are the 26 inputs, 26-51 are the 26
playbacks, and 0-25 are the outputs. The first command above routes input 8
to output 0 at a volume of 16000. (About 50%.)

You will need to discover your correct numbers. Try amixer for some clues,
although I still don't really understand what it tells me.

> and then alsaplayer. I did *not* run amixer. Do I get that right, that
> hdspmixer replaces it and there is no need for amixer when I run
> hdspmixer?

They both work (or can work) hand in hand. Do not use alsamixer.

> With the new alsaplayer-alsa installation and alsaplayer -o alsa
> -d plughw:0
> I do not get the warning from the player any more. The first two channels
> in the middle row show a stereo signal. Below that I see 'All 1+2' and
> have tried to set this to different output channels...
> Still no signal in the third row (faders are up), and still no sound...

It appears to me that the player is working correctly.

I think you've got this right, but just because the box says A1+A2 doesn't
mean it's routing audio if the fader is down. If the fader is up, then the
card should be routing audio.

> I think I could have made a very basic newbie mistake, even though I *did*
> a lot of searching on the net, and did a lot of RTFM. I do not pretend
> that I understood all of it, though.

This is Linux. If you're like me you'll be making newbie mistakes forever!
;-)

'ps -A | grep jack' shows nothing.

Jack is not running then, but it's not required.

I think you may have a firmware problem. Possibly with older firmware,
probably available from RME's web site, you will do better.

Good luck,
Mark


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