Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Newbie checks in
From: Joseph Dell'Orfano (fullgo_AT_dellorfano.net)
Date: Tue May 11 2004 - 05:06:52 EEST
I would like to put in another major plug for Planet CCRMA. All of the
aforementioned packages (ardour, audacity, jamin') and many others can
be installed in one fell apt-get install. You will have more music and
video apps than you know what to do with!
I have had great luck with a relatively inexpensive Delta 1010LT sound
card. There are a few things to note with this - it allows simultaneous
multitrack recording, includes 2 balanced XLR inputs and in addition has
a MIDI port and SPDIF i/o. It is very well supported with Alsa and Jack,
etc. It doesn't connect to your CD-ROM drive as far as I can tell, so
playing a CD from the computer doesn't work (at least for me, unless I
am missing something obvious) It is essentially a brain-dead install if
you follow the directions on the CCRMA website!
Essentially, in purchasing a relatively descent PCI sound card and
installing the Planet CCRMA stuff, then you will still spend a tiny
fraction of what an equivalent Windoze system might cost you.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
-Joe D
On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 21:53, Russell Hanaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-05-10 at 18:18, Jos Laake wrote:
> > Hey! Thanks for all the great responses! This is my kind
> > of mailing list! :-) Okay, I'm really serious about making
> > some hellacious new music, so I'm diving into this... Here
> > are some questions leading off the new info...
>
> Never said you could ASK questions...Just said Hi! :))
> >
> > R Parker wrote:
> > > Hi Jos,
> > > There are numerous options but have a look at
> > > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/. It
> > > works. I think you'll find what want.
> >
> > Wow. CCRMA...seems like some amazing work going on
> > there. Okay, so I downloaded and installed the latest
> > CCRMA kernel and the matching ALSA support. So far,
> > it all seems to be working. The new kernel runs like a
> > charm (2.4.26-1.11). Low latency is on. Things still work.
> >
> > So, now I have a tuned kernel and ALSA. Next...
>
> Mandrake has it swingin' too incase you want to dig around and try
> something else. URPMI makes installing software pretty easy (things
> NEVER compile well for me) and Thac's website ( rpm.nyvalls.se ) is just
> brimming with all the latest and greatest stuff that he compiles and
> packages just for ME...Er...us! :)
>
> >
> > eviltwin69_AT_cableone.net wrote:
> > > Welcome back! Check out my web site:
> > > http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/ALSA_JACK_ARDOUR.html
> > >
> > > Ardour is the best multitrack available but it takes some setup
> > > to get running.
> > > I've documented the scratch setup on my web site (since you
> > > already know your way around Linux this shouldn't be a problem).
> >
> > So, I went to the Ardour website and checked it out. Seems like
> > ALSA/JACK/Ardour is a pretty good combination. But I'd like a
> > little more input from folks who have tried this stuff. Any
> > comparison tests out there among the various attempts at developing
> > a Digital Audio Workstation? Ardour seems more robust than Audacity,
> > yet Audacity seems easier to use. Is this just my newbie sense leading
> > me astray or is my intuition telling me something?
>
> Allow me...Ardour and Audacity in my mind are like Gold and Chalk! Not
> in the same league. Ardour is heading towards being able to compete with
> the big'uns such as Cubase, Sonar, Pro Tools, etc. It's already there in
> many ways but the developer(s) are still working on that to ripen it up!
> Audacity is a neat "toy" to me. I don't have that much time with it and
> I'm sure it's a good app.
> >
> > > Don't forget to check out JAMIn for
> > > mastering (http://jamin.sourceforge.net/).
> >
> > I'll get to this a little bit later... ;-)
>
> Jamin is an AWESOME tool for mastering and such but it's a bit "hoggy"
> on the cycles is all. To be expected from something with some boots on!
>
> >
> >
> > Pete Bessman wrote:
> >
> > > I don't have experience with the audio hardware you describe, but it's
> > > not known for pro-quality in the Window's world, so I don't see why it
> > > would be any different on Linux. Your other hardware specs sound to
> > > be much more than sufficient.
> > >
> > > If you're interested in getting a new sound card, I'd recommend coming
> > > up with a few candidates and then asking the list what they think of
> > > them.
> >
> > So how about this one? - Creative Labs SoundBlaster MP3+ USB Audio unit
> > Yeah, it's a cheapo, about 40 bucks at Fry's. Anybody using consumer
> > grade stuff and getting decent (demo qulity) results? Or are the stock
> > soundcards and/or motherboard sound units all crap? Remember, my last
> > recordings were on reel-to-reel tape. I'm not looking for pro-studio
> > 2-track ulti-bit quality here. I just wanna make cool music that
> > sounds clean enough for my friends and fans to play in their car stereos
> > and MP players.
>
> I have not messed with USB audio cards specifically. I do use a midiman
> 2x2 USB midi interface with no probs...Frank has much on USB sound
> devices...and none of it good! :) I don't think USB should be your
> first choice but you dont need to spend big bux to do multi tracking.
> It's really comes down to how many simultaneous In's 'n' outs you want.
> If you just want to do track by track your in great shape with a
> consumer card. I use SBlives, ESS Maestro3 and a Turtle Bitch...er
> Beach. SBlive 5.1's are about $20.00 US (OEM) and get good latency for
> the most part.
>
> >
> > Okay, I'll bust it up and keep this short. I suppose I should pop over
> > to Linux Audio *Developers* to ask about fine-tuning hard drives and
> > interrupts, eh? ;-)
> >
> > Thanks for the quick feedback and input, y'all!
>
> I'm pretty much a noob myself. This is just my malformed personal
> opinion and there are many folks that have forgotten more in the last
> week than I have learned in a year of Linux Audio.
>
> R~
>
> >
> > ~Jos~
> >
>
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