Re: [linux-audio-user] sound card linux documentation wiki+forum site [WAS: Linux audio hardwarem arket research [was: creating a wiki "soundcard experiences" site]]

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Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] sound card linux documentation wiki+forum site [WAS: Linux audio hardwarem arket research [was: creating a wiki "soundcard experiences" site]]
From: Ruth A. Kramer (rhkramer_AT_fast.net)
Date: Thu Dec 02 2004 - 03:32:50 EET


MarC wrote:
> I agree with LASCCreative_SBAudigyOEM, but we should display it in
> ahuman readable title in the list displayed at LASoundCards (it's
> possible to associate a title like "Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy
> OEM" to "LASCCreative_SBAudigyOEM")

Currently I have a search automatically create the list of LA pages (and
later, LASC pages, which would be (primarily) a list of sound cards.
(See http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/LA_LinuxAudio.) A typical
entry is as follows, with the non-human readable page name
(LA_SoundBlasterAudigy) followed by the human readable page title
(Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy OEM). (The TWiki software basically
(iirc) displays the page name followed by the first ~162 characters of
the text of the page, which almost certainly includes the page title.):

LA_SoundBlasterAudigy: MarC's comments on the Creative Labs Sound
Blaster Audigy, OEM version. If anything is missing, misleading, or
whatever, please ...

Unless I'm missing something, making the entry display the page title
(by, for example) creating a link like [[LA_SoundBlasterAudigy][Creative
Labs Sound Blaster Audigy OEM]] would require manual maintenance of the
list. (or someone to modify some parts of the TWiki Perl code and
possibly the TWiki meta data) It may happen some day, but most likely
not by me (I'm working on learning Ruby or Python, and then may write
something like TWiki only with more askSam type features (and some other
stuff)).

So, I'd suggest we stick with the automatic format. If somebody
actually wants to maintain a manual list, I'd suggest we keep the
automatic list, preferably on the same page, but maybe on another page
linked to that page.

> I'm also thinking that it must be very simple for a contributor to a
> create a new page for his/her sound card, so we should not make it too
> complicated and create a sort of a form to help him/her. Abbreviations
> must follow some "universal" logic (but yes, I think that LA for
> subpages of Linux Audio and SC for subpages of SoundCards is quite logic))

Very simple is good. There is some possibility of a form or template,
but maybe we'll start with the existing template and a page of
instructions. I use the existing template for all the (new) pages on
WikiLearn, and it would be tedious to create a different one for the LA
pseudo web. I'll try to work on a set of instructions, or maybe just
start the page, let others add to it in the Wiki way.

I'm still wrestling (a little) with LaSc vs. LASc vs. LASC as a prefix
-- the last lower case letter (at least) helps the first "real" word of
the page name stand out more, e.g.:

LAScCreative_SBAudigyOEM

vs.

LaScCreative_SBAudigyOEM

vs.

LASCCreative_SBAudigyOEM

Or, we can put the underbar back in, like:

LASC_Creative_SBAudigyOEM

I'll try to spend a little time today double checking that the underbar
doesn't cause problems, or that they are minor.

> >I'd prefer (I think) LALinuxAudio, which sort of explains the LA prefix
> >in the name.
> yes, I think that the main page can even be called LinuxAudio
> and only call LA* its subpages.

That's probably fine too (I'll think on it a little today) -- it does
avoid having that page show up on the (automatically generated) list of
pages on that page (itself). (Sorry about the sentence. ;-)

> By the way, do you know how to activate RSS feed in this page? is it
> possible?

It is possible, but I've never done it / don't know how. Try a search
on twiki.org for RSS (maybe Google for [site:twiki.org RSS activate]).
OK, I just tried it, looks like this is the page you want:

http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiSyndication

regards,
Randy Kramer

PS: Again, I'll hold off name changes for a little while, to hear any
further comments from you and do some checking / thinking -- renaming
and the associated bookkeeping (leaving (recreating) the old page with a
link to the new page) is something I prefer not to do very often.


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