Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Mastering deck mix
From: Ben Edwards (lists) ("Ben)
Date: Mon Dec 06 2004 - 22:51:17 EET
I was going to write this email soon but this email has prompted me to
write it now. Firstly ardour is a very good pro grade application.
When it goes to v1 and the GTK2 version is out is may well become as
killer app in the music sector. Currently it is possible to ask the
community not to document ardour and they will probably not do so. but
when a stable GTK2 version comes out various companies are going to
bring out manuals. I am also unsure as to the quality of the manual
that will come out of the ardour camp is. Are there
professional/experience technical authors ready to do this. My
experience is that manuals written by teaches are lacking in usability.
I would of thought going for funding was a more likely way forward.
Just my opinion and I hope my frankness douse not upset people too much.
Ben
On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 08:40 -0800, R Parker wrote:
> Hi,
>
> --- ish_AT_sarai.net wrote:
>
> > I m writting a how-to on using ardour and JAMin
> > together>>>
> > it is a very powerfull
> > tool/combination...........>>> jamin is a good
> > option for mastering >>>
> > ill let u know if when the how to comes up >>> in a
> > couple of days...
>
> I write a reply explaining the situation with
> producing Ardour documentation about once a month.
> Paul Davis has asked us not to document Ardour. The
> following is a letter written by him that explains his
> reasoning.
>
> "several people have written recently about
> documentation. there are people on the list who don't
> know about the situation with ardour's documentation,
> so i should probably explain.
>
> ardour has taken me nearly 5 years to write. during
> that time, i have received donations of about $2K from
> users, and the rest of the US$250,000 or so that it
> has cost to support my family has come from money i
> made from my brief employment with amazon.com. there
> is not
> much money left to do this with, perhaps another 6-10
> months, and then i have to do something else. i am
> already interviewing for other work because of this.
>
> it is not at easy to come up with a plan to make money
> from software like ardour. it is a niche market with
> very little flowing around, an 800lb gorilla sitting
> in the corner (digidesign), a lot of competition
> and a lot of illegal distribution of both DAWs and
> plugins. oh, and i give the program away :)
>
> among the various half-formed plans that i have (they
> may never come to fruition) is to sell the manual for
> a reasonably significant sum of money. the only way i
> can feel comfortable with that is if i write the
> manual myself.
>
> obviously, people could volunteer to help with it, but
> it has to be with the clear and absolutely unambiguous
> understanding that there *might* be a real revenue
> stream from the manual and they will see *none* of it.
> not because they don't deserve it, but because i need
> it:)
>
> one way to avoid this particular plan would be to set
> up something roughly equivalent to the blender
> foundation. it wouldn't take a lot: 3 companies
> throwing in $15K/yr each would be sufficient. blender
> gets EU funding and support for Apple and some other
> companies, to the tune of about $1M last year. if
> something like this happened, i could forget the
> manual as a centerpiece of my plans, and open it up to
> a
> much more cooperative process.
>
> --p"
>
> There are many of us who would like to document
> Ardour. This is a situation where we really need to
> consider the interests of Paul Davis before we serve
> ourselves.
>
> Your interests in documenting JAMin are an entirely
> different matter because there are no restrictions
> discouraging you from doing that.
>
> ron
>
> > boom
> >
> > #ish
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Last Thursday 02 December 2004 19:40, Ben Edwards
> > (lists) was like:
> > >> Secondly was wondering if there was any way of
> > using audacity/jamin
> > >> together. Idealy I want to use ardour/jamin but
> > audacity is a lot
> > >> simpler and is a good fallback.
> > >
> > > For what you want it may work out easier to use
> > Ardour with JAMin. I guess
> > > you
> > > need to run Jackd, I've never tried it otherwise.
> > >
> > >> Thirdly - and this is the most important question
> > - any advide as to how
> > >> to master a deck mix for recording/streaming. I
> > am planing to use jamin
> > >> to do this but general advice/other options also
> > good.
> > >
> > > JAMin really is _the_ mastering app.
> > >
> > > tim hall
> > > http://glastonburymusic.org.uk
> > > (close enough for laying on of hands if need be
> > ;-)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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