Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] recording keyboard works (e.g. rosegarden)
From: Hans Fugal (fugalh_AT_gmail.com)
Date: Thu Dec 23 2004 - 05:28:03 EET
Thanks for the input, I think I'm moving in the right direction at least.
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 18:35:56 -0500, John Check <j4strngs_AT_bitless.net> wrote:
> Do you practice with a metronome? If not, that would be my first guess
> as to what you're seeing when you sequence.
Not usually, and I think that is primarily what's going on with my
having a hard time laying it down ensemble-style.
> You _could_ turn the click off, crank up the ticks per quarter to the max,
> jack the tempo up and just record the guide track rubato (fancy talk for
> "close enough for rock&roll" (I'm figuring you know that)). Not good in terms
> of a pretty display, using the file to generate notation or a tidy SMF, but
> it's approximating recording the performance on tape as far as the sequencers
> temporality limitations goes. Again, I'm not sure of the exact reason you're
> doing this. These things may be important, in which case you have to take a
> different approach.
I did something like this and so far it's the closest I've come to
what I want. Perhaps I'll continue finessing this approach.
> Step recording is another possibility, but it's tedious.
On one try, I step-recorded the top voice. I soon realized how poor a
choice as a guide track it is, and I'm not really interested in step
recording one of the middle voices.
> You didn't say if
> your sequencer is auto-quantizing the input, but that can have an effect.
> If your hearing playback that doesn't jibe temporally with what it sounded
> like when you laid it down, i.e. tuplets are messed up, then it's either
> auto-quantizing (either in or out) or you have insufficient resolution ticks
> per quarter wise. Consider a tuplet that doesn't divide evenly and what
> happens to the mantissa.
No auto quantization. It's not that things sound different from what I
lay down, it's just that what I lay down doesn't sound as coherent as
when it is all played at the same time. I imagine this is just a skill
to develop.
I don't need or particularly care about notation or keeping the bars
aligned - I'd be perfectly happy ditching the metronome and working in
pure time, if that works well.
-- De gustibus non disputandum est.
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