Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] YA(C)R (was: recording keyboard works (e.g. rosegarden))
From: Hans Fugal (fugalh_AT_gmail.com)
Date: Fri Dec 24 2004 - 19:10:13 EET
Hi Steve,
Your advice was invaluable, and it worked quite well. Thanks!
Here's the fruit of my labors: Yet Another (Christmas) Recording. I
recorded Bach's BWV 608 which is a fugal treatment of In Dulci Jubilo.
I played this last week on the organ in church with the help of
another in the congregation that has a really neat homegrown MIDI
trumpet thing and portable sound module/amp. (He did the pedal line)
This recording was mostly an excercise. It was made in Rosegarden
using Hexter for the solid gold DX7 sounds, with a few LADSPA plugins
thrown in for spice, mixed down with the help of JACK Timemachine and
Audacity (it was too late to figure out Jamin and Ardour this time). I
hope you enjoy the DX7 treatment of Bach's arrangement.
http://hans.fugal.net/music/in_dulci_jubilo.ogg
And if you don't celebrate Christmas... it's still a nice tune. As
always, I welcome feedback.
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:54:38 -0700, Steve D <groups_AT_xscd.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2004 at 12:20:58PM -0700, Hans Fugal wrote:
> > I'm interested in rendering some organ works electronically. The first
> > step of course is to get the music in the computer, e.g. in MIDI
> > format.
> >
> > [...] music is in multiple voices, and I would like to instrument each voice
> > differently. I have tried recording them one at a time, in an ensemble
> > style, but even when I follow a metronome it ends up sounding like
> > trash. I have decided that either I need to work on my ensemble
> > playing or I am going about it the wrong way. Maybe I should just
> > record the manuals and try to separate out the parts into separate
> > tracks as a post-processing task. [...]
> >
> > What do you all do in this situation? The same issues naturally apply
> > to other styles of music as well, e.g. choral or orchestral.
> --- --- ---
>
> For myself as a pianist, I have tried to use a metronome, and then
> quantization later to move separately recorded parts into sync with each
> other in time, but the result sounds very mechanical and unsatisfactory.
>
> Now I don't use a metronome at all. Instead, I create my own
> personalized, flexible and variable "metronome" by first recording a
> "scratch" track via MIDI of the entire piece in at least skeletal,
> rudimentary form, that I will later mute and eventually dispose of once
> the other individual voices and tracks are recorded.
>
> For that first track I play the entire piece without concern for
> absolute note-perfect performance. Instead I'm just trying to get the
> rhythm and "groove," interpretation and expression, the tempo and volume
> variations of the piece
> established. I begin the track
> with a "count off," striking one key of the digital-piano as a drummer
> would tap his sticks together to get all the performers into the same
> tempo before everyone begins to play the piece.
>
> Later, after I have recorded this crude but expressive scratch track, I
> record each of its parts individually into separate tracks, one at a
> time, by accompanying myself as I listen to the first "master" scratch
> track. It becomes like playing along with another musician instead of
> trying to follow a metronome, and it is much easier to get comfortable
> and "in sync" with the tempo, beat and interpretive nuances of one's own
> master track than with a sterile, overbearing metronome.
>
> Then, after all voices and tracks are recorded separately, I mute the
> first master/scratch track, do a little editing of the MIDI data of the
> remaining tracks, then play back all of the tracks except the
> first/master/scratch track and mix and record the digital-audio output.
>
> -Steve D
> Portales, NM US
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