Re: [LAU] Re: That must suck. For me it's about beauty -- music is justone path

From: Charles Linart <clinart@email-addr-hidden>
Date: Wed Apr 04 2007 - 16:50:59 EEST

.>>To put it bluntly if every morning you were
.>>being prematurely woken up by a beautiful bird song of a bird who lives on a
.>>tree next to your window, I am pretty sure that you would eventually learn
.>>to dislike that sound as much as you currently dislike the sound of your
.>>alarm clock.

Speaking from personal experience, I have to disagree. A life in
harmony with nature, directed by nature's rhythm is a happy and
beautiful life. Never been happier than during the period of my life
when the rooster was my alarm clock -- never gotten up so early,
either. The reason the alarm clock is so disturbing is that it throws
us off that groove.

We are a part of nature and any creative expression is a reference to
that primal connection. Maybe that's why music made by human beings
can be so pleasing compared to music made by machines. Sometimes the
MIDIfied stuff just sounds like a big, glorified clock to me.

On 4/4/07, Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
> > Marcos Guglielmetti escribe:
> > > Maybe noise is beauty... I dont know... the sounds of the ocean are like
> > > noice, just like the wind too... I think this is beautiful, but, because
> > I
> > > dont like the car's, bus, planes, trains, etc., sounds, I think there is
> > > almost no beauty into the industrial age sounds (factories, etc.)
>
> It seems likely that you don't like these sounds because of their
> psychoacoustic association. To put it bluntly if every morning you were
> being prematurely woken up by a beautiful bird song of a bird who lives on a
> tree next to your window, I am pretty sure that you would eventually learn
> to dislike that sound as much as you currently dislike the sound of your
> alarm clock. All sounds we are aware of are simply a combination of sine
> tones perceptible by our ears. Therefore, the only difference between a
> sound of an ocean and a steam engine is ultimately their "recipe." If you
> consider all sounds on this, much more equal plane, then it becomes rather
> apparent that all sounds have beauty that simply needs to be uncovered
> regardless of their source. This art is also known as acousmatic music (or a
> sound removed from its source).
>
> > You've discovered the point. Men are capable of creating beauty but
> > unfortunately nature is much more capable. The harder you try to
>
> My take is that art is our attempt at emulating nature and realizing our
> ineptness (pointlessness?) in matching its beauty. For this reason, we tend
> to use art as our response (perception?) to nature. In this respect,
> man-made contraptions are just another extension of nature and its laws.
>
> Ico
>
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