Re: [LAU] qsynth: errors / what a waste of time :(

Shelagh Manton wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:23:47 +0100
> schoappied <schoappied@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
>
>
>> Shelagh Manton wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:58:20 +0100
>>> schoappied <schoappied@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> schoappied wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe Hartley wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:26:54 +0100
>>>>>>>> schoappied <schoappied@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I want to open qsynth on Ubuntu while jackctl is already
>>>>>>>>> running I'll get these messages:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Turn off the setting in Qsynth that starts jack when Qsynth
>>>>>>>> starts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i'm sorry but this setting is not available on
>>>>>>> qsynth(fluidsynth)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> however it's something of the sort on qjackctl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sure, you must have jack running _before_ you start qsynth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The error about connecting with jack is gone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the one about not connecting to alsa_seq, no midi device
>>>>>> stands still....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> : Failed to create the MIDI driver (alsa_seq). No MIDI input will
>>>>>> be available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> do you have the alsa sequencer module loaded?
>>>>>
>>>>> try as root:
>>>>>
>>>>> modprobe snd-seq-midi
>>>>>
>>>>> and to make it permanent on every boot (on ubuntu):
>>>>>
>>>>> echo snd-seq-midi > /etc/modules
>>>>>
>>>>> byee
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the replies.
>>>>
>>>> There is a problem with the midi stuff. I must say I don't
>>>> understand close to nothing about this subject on linux, but it
>>>> seems that there are some things which are disturbing eachother...
>>>>
>>>> This is my /etc/modules on Ubuntu:
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
>>>> #
>>>> # This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be
>>>> loaded # at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with "#" are
>>>> ignored.
>>>>
>>>> loop
>>>> lp
>>>> fuse
>>>>
>>>> snd-seq-midi
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> But I'll still get those messages...
>>>>
>>>> @Arda:
>>>>
>>>> service timidity stop (as root) is not working. Command service
>>>> not found or something....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> "service" is a redhat thang. Use /etc/init.d/timidity stop instead.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I also use noteedit and for that I need to load timidity. Is there
>>>> a way to set up the midi in Ubuntu which works with all programs
>>>> e.g. noteedit, rosegarden, qsynth etc. ??
>>>>
>>>>
>>> timidity has a jack option..
>>>
>>> timidity -iA -Oj #-iA using Alsa and -Oj outputting to jackd
>>>
>>> This may make timidity play nice with all your jack toys.
>>>
>>> Shelagh
>>>
>>>
>>>> My sister is a (semi) prof. musicians and she is using Finale
>>>> 2007. I want to look if I can set her mind to linux..... But
>>>> things should be preconfigured smoothly to accomplish this....
>>>>
>
> Have her look at this page.
>
> http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-1.html
>
> Which is by someone who uses finale and tried lilypond.
>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Dirk
>>>>
>
> Dirk, I have had problems as I have an on-board soundcard and "another"
> (which is too embarrassingly old to mention on this venerable list) and
> I had to tell jack specifically to use hw:1 not the onboard card.
> Do you have an extra sound-card confusing things?
>
> Has anyone asked you to try this command?
>
> lsmod | grep snd
>
> If you send the result to this list, someone might be able to help you.
>
> But I can tell you that it *is* possible to have jackd, timidity (using
> jack output) qsynth and rosegarden running together as I've done it on
> my box which runs ubuntu.
>
> Shelagh
>
> PS my /etc/modules file does not have snd-seq-midi listed. Go figure.
>
>
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>>>
>>>
>> What is waste of time is this. Unbelievable that I can't make a
>> simple synth to work... Very irritating.
>>
>> Thanks Shelagh for your reply, but I'll still get:
>>
>>
>> *': Failed to create the MIDI driver (alsa_seq). No MIDI input will
>> be available.'
>>
>> *LEt me explain again what I want. I want to work on Ubuntu with
>> qjackctl > qsynth > rosegarden. I also want to work with other apps
>> like noteedit, zynadd... etc. (qjackctl is running fine). * *- Please
>> explain to me what AND why I've to load in my /etc/modules on Ubuntu.
>> - What is snd-seq, snd-seq-midi? Should I load them both, what is the
>> difference and should I use snd-seq or snd_seq? Should I also load
>> timidity on my /etc/modules?
>> - Can I use just one midi player (snd-seq or timidity) for all my
>> programs eg noteedit, qsynth, qjackctl, rosegarden etc.?
>> - Is there maybe something wrong with my audio/ midi configuration on
>> Ubuntu? (I don't talk about midi hardware).
>> - Are there specific things/ settings I should notice when I connect
>> qsynth to qjackctl?
>> - Is there another synth comparable with qsynth?
>>
>> It seems to me that the way audio is organized on linux is a little
>> bit unorganized and complex... But maybe I'm in a bad period or so...
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Dirk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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As I said, only engine 1 is not working.... You can see that in the
messages displayed by qsynth.
-------------------------------------------
e@email-addr-hidden:~$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_rtctimer 4384 1
snd_intel8x0 34844 1
snd_ac97_codec 100772 1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus 3456 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm_oss 44928 0
snd_mixer_oss 17664 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 80644 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy 4740 0
snd_seq_oss 33792 0
snd_seq_midi 9600 0
snd_rawmidi 25728 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event 8576 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 54128 7
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer 24324 3 snd_rtctimer,snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 9228 5
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd 55172 13
snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore 9312 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 11400 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
-------------------------------------------------
qsynth messages:

13:38:55.455 Qsynth1: Creating audio driver (jack)...
13:38:55.581 Qsynth1: Creating MIDI router (alsa_seq)...
13:38:55.582 Qsynth1: Creating MIDI driver (alsa_seq)...
*13:38:55.615 Qsynth1: Failed to create the MIDI driver (alsa_seq). No
MIDI input will be available.
JACK tmpdir identified as [/dev/shm]
ALSA lib seq.c:935:(snd_seq_open_noupdate) Unknown SEQ snd-seq
fluidsynth: error: Error opening ALSA sequencer*
13:38:57.874 Qsynth1: Creating MIDI player...
13:38:57.874 Qsynth1: fluid_synth_program_reset()
13:38:57.892 Qsynth1: Synthesizer engine started.
13:38:57.894 Qsynth2: Creating synthesizer engine...
13:38:58.022 Qsynth2: Loading soundfont:
"/home/japke/Muziek/Soundfonts/jRhodes3.sf2" (bank offset 0)...
13:39:01.347 Qsynth2: Creating audio driver (jack)...
13:39:01.468 Qsynth2: Creating MIDI router (alsa_seq)...
13:39:01.468 Qsynth2: Creating MIDI driver (alsa_seq)...
13:39:01.530 Qsynth2: Creating MIDI player...

Dirk

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