Re: [LAU] qsynth: errors / what a waste of time :(

On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:23:47 +0100
schoappied <schoappied@email-addr-hidden> wrote:

> Shelagh Manton wrote:
> > On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:58:20 +0100
> > schoappied <schoappied@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
> >>
> >>> schoappied wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Joe Hartley wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:26:54 +0100
> >>>>>> schoappied <schoappied@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> When I want to open qsynth on Ubuntu while jackctl is already
> >>>>>>> running I'll get these messages:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Turn off the setting in Qsynth that starts jack when Qsynth
> >>>>>> starts.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> i'm sorry but this setting is not available on
> >>>>> qsynth(fluidsynth)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> however it's something of the sort on qjackctl
> >>>>>
> >>>>> sure, you must have jack running _before_ you start qsynth.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> The error about connecting with jack is gone.
> >>>>
> >>>> But the one about not connecting to alsa_seq, no midi device
> >>>> stands still....
> >>>>
> >>>> : Failed to create the MIDI driver (alsa_seq). No MIDI input will
> >>>> be available.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> do you have the alsa sequencer module loaded?
> >>>
> >>> try as root:
> >>>
> >>> modprobe snd-seq-midi
> >>>
> >>> and to make it permanent on every boot (on ubuntu):
> >>>
> >>> echo snd-seq-midi > /etc/modules
> >>>
> >>> byee
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Thanks for the replies.
> >>
> >> There is a problem with the midi stuff. I must say I don't
> >> understand close to nothing about this subject on linux, but it
> >> seems that there are some things which are disturbing eachother...
> >>
> >> This is my /etc/modules on Ubuntu:
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
> >> #
> >> # This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be
> >> loaded # at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with "#" are
> >> ignored.
> >>
> >> loop
> >> lp
> >> fuse
> >>
> >> snd-seq-midi
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> But I'll still get those messages...
> >>
> >> @Arda:
> >>
> >> service timidity stop (as root) is not working. Command service
> >> not found or something....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > "service" is a redhat thang. Use /etc/init.d/timidity stop instead.
> >
> >
> >> I also use noteedit and for that I need to load timidity. Is there
> >> a way to set up the midi in Ubuntu which works with all programs
> >> e.g. noteedit, rosegarden, qsynth etc. ??
> >>
> >
> > timidity has a jack option..
> >
> > timidity -iA -Oj #-iA using Alsa and -Oj outputting to jackd
> >
> > This may make timidity play nice with all your jack toys.
> >
> > Shelagh
> >
> >> My sister is a (semi) prof. musicians and she is using Finale
> >> 2007. I want to look if I can set her mind to linux..... But
> >> things should be preconfigured smoothly to accomplish this....

Have her look at this page.

http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-1.html

Which is by someone who uses finale and tried lilypond.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Dirk

Dirk, I have had problems as I have an on-board soundcard and "another"
(which is too embarrassingly old to mention on this venerable list) and
I had to tell jack specifically to use hw:1 not the onboard card.
Do you have an extra sound-card confusing things?

Has anyone asked you to try this command?

lsmod | grep snd

If you send the result to this list, someone might be able to help you.

But I can tell you that it *is* possible to have jackd, timidity (using
jack output) qsynth and rosegarden running together as I've done it on
my box which runs ubuntu.

Shelagh

PS my /etc/modules file does not have snd-seq-midi listed. Go figure.

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> >
> What is waste of time is this. Unbelievable that I can't make a
> simple synth to work... Very irritating.
>
> Thanks Shelagh for your reply, but I'll still get:
>
>
> *': Failed to create the MIDI driver (alsa_seq). No MIDI input will
> be available.'
>
> *LEt me explain again what I want. I want to work on Ubuntu with
> qjackctl > qsynth > rosegarden. I also want to work with other apps
> like noteedit, zynadd... etc. (qjackctl is running fine). * *- Please
> explain to me what AND why I've to load in my /etc/modules on Ubuntu.
> - What is snd-seq, snd-seq-midi? Should I load them both, what is the
> difference and should I use snd-seq or snd_seq? Should I also load
> timidity on my /etc/modules?
> - Can I use just one midi player (snd-seq or timidity) for all my
> programs eg noteedit, qsynth, qjackctl, rosegarden etc.?
> - Is there maybe something wrong with my audio/ midi configuration on
> Ubuntu? (I don't talk about midi hardware).
> - Are there specific things/ settings I should notice when I connect
> qsynth to qjackctl?
> - Is there another synth comparable with qsynth?
>
> It seems to me that the way audio is organized on linux is a little
> bit unorganized and complex... But maybe I'm in a bad period or so...
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Dirk
>
>
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