Re: [LAU] re Subconscious Affecting Music

On Mon, August 30, 2010 11:05 am, James Morris wrote:
> On 30 August 2010 18:36, Rustom Mody <rustompmody@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:43 PM, <fons@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 06:04:53AM -0700, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>>
>>> > Yes, I agree the basic formula for mindless drivel has not changed
>>> much
>>> > over the years. Perhaps that is why we have been dominated by a
>>> > hereditary
>>> > elite for so long now?
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, much of this thread is mindless drivel as well:
>>>
>>> * Reducing a complex social process to a simplistic conspiration
>>> theory.
>>>
>>> * Abusing ill-defined but suggestive terminology from Freudian
>>> psychology,
>>>  ('subconscious', 'mind', etc.) ignoring everything this science as
>>>  produced over the last 30 or so years.
>>>
>>> And what is this 'hereditary elite' ? The last few kings and kaisers
>>> that remain here and there ?
>>>
>>> > If we are accepting of this as the status quo then we get what we
>>> > deserve.
>>>
>>> Those who accept it get what they deserve. It's up to you to decide
>>> if you are included or not.
>>>
>>> Ciao,
>>>
>>> --
>>> FA
>>
>> I would just like to point out some (perhaps irrelevant) points:
>> 1. The great western classical tradition which started around Bach (or a
>> few
>> hundred years earlier depending on how you look at/hear it) suddenly
>> died
>> around 1900.
>> Classical music degenerated into varieties of insanities like serialism
>> etc
>> and pop/rock etc emerged over the next 50 years out of what was earlier
>> simple folk music.
>>
>> 2. Western music has always used and experimented with varieties of
>> well-tempering.
>> Equal tempering only took hold in the 20th century ie after 1900 see for
>> example:
>> http://www.math.uwaterloo.ca/~mrubinst/tuning/tuning.html
>>
>> 3. The 'greatest' wars that humans have ever fought happened in the 20th
>> century
>
>
> Then let's blame the Dadaists and Surrealists. They're the two art
> movements which advertisers have mined to the greatest extent for
> inspiration. They brought the art of the insane out of the shadows,
> and 'primitive' art also (an art also of spirits and devils and aliens
> etc).
>
> just my change from 2 cents.
>
>

So you don't think the constant bombardment with dumbed down pop culture
has anything to answer for?

What do you think was the point of Pop Art?

There is a good reason why Andy Wharhol was considered a revolutionary
thinker at the time...

-- 
Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd.
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