Re: [LAU] Linux programs for creatiing/manipulating sound effects

From: Folderol <folderol@email-addr-hidden>
Date: Tue Feb 08 2011 - 20:07:21 EET

On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 06:33:03 -1000
david <gnome@email-addr-hidden> wrote:

> Hartmut Noack wrote:
> > Am 08.02.2011 09:15, schrieb david:
> >> Hartmut Noack wrote:
> >>> Am 08.02.2011 08:35, schrieb david:
> >>>> Robin Gareus wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Mike,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 02/07/2011 04:40 PM, Mike Cookson wrote:
> >>>>>> For non-realtime (including non-linear, like montage) processing you
> >>>>>> need only plugins (ladspa, lv2, vamp) and some editor like Audacity,
> >>>>>> mhWaveEdit or something other.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For realtime (also called
> >>>>>> non-destructive editing... hm, probably, they are right :) you need
> >>>>>> set of various software, that could be used at one time and be
> >>>>>> connected each to other).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> real-time effects processing and non-destructive editing often go hand
> >>>>> in hand, but note that
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "non-destructive" means that the original [audio] data will never be
> >>>>> modified. Any edit/effect/modifications are saved as new files (or
> >>>>> remebered as application-settings operating on the original data).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> audio-editors (rezound, audacity, sweep, etc) are usually destructive:
> >>>>> load file, apply effect, save file -> original file is gone.
> >>>>
> >>>> Audacity is import audio file, apply effect, save project (optional),
> >>>> export in chosen format. It never replaces the original file.
> >>>
> >>> So there is a major dfference between audiofiles, you have imported
> >>> and audiofiles, you have recorded with audacity -- correct?
> >>
> >> No, I never have. I usually use JACK, and have never been able to make
> >> Audacity work with JACK. I've only done the following things with
> >> Audacity:
> >>
> >> 1. Import 16 tracks of 32-bit WAV files (recorded on another machine
> >> from my church band's Firewire interface using some Windows software)
> >> and do basic mixing.
> >>
> >> 2. Trim and cleanup voice audio recordings made on my PDA.
> >>
> >> 3. Trim and convert wave files recorded using jack_capture.
> >>
> >> 4. Pitch shift prerecorded MP3s if needed for band members who play
> >> solely by ear (if the recording's in Eb and we're playing it in D,
> >> they're lost).
> >>
> >> If you have the time and brains needed to learn Ardour, go for it!
> >>
> > I think it is a myth, that Ardour is too complicated to learn for a
> > beginner.
>
> Perhaps it's a myth for others. I responded only from my own experience.
>
> There are plenty of folk here who use Ardour and do wonderful things
> with it. Advanced features? I couldn't tell an advanced feature from a
> basic feature. I couldn't even figure out to simply record anything with
> it, and Ardour's "automagic" setup didn't seem to include that connection.
>
> No insult to Ardour, I'm no audio techno whiz. I figured I'd wait til
> Ardour 3 is released and I have the time to learn it.

I had exactly the same experience. Twice over a two year period!

These days I either record with timemachine, then process later in audacity, or
record directly into Rosegarden, where I usually have associated MIDI tracks.

-- 
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
Say you have a poem and I have a tune.
Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song.
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