Re: [LAU] Linux programs for creatiing/manipulating sound effects

Hartmut Noack wrote:
> Am 08.02.2011 09:15, schrieb david:
>> Hartmut Noack wrote:
>>> Am 08.02.2011 08:35, schrieb david:
>>>> Robin Gareus wrote:
>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/07/2011 04:40 PM, Mike Cookson wrote:
>>>>>> For non-realtime (including non-linear, like montage) processing you
>>>>>> need only plugins (ladspa, lv2, vamp) and some editor like Audacity,
>>>>>> mhWaveEdit or something other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For realtime (also called
>>>>>> non-destructive editing... hm, probably, they are right :) you need
>>>>>> set of various software, that could be used at one time and be
>>>>>> connected each to other).
>>>>>
>>>>> real-time effects processing and non-destructive editing often go hand
>>>>> in hand, but note that
>>>>>
>>>>> "non-destructive" means that the original [audio] data will never be
>>>>> modified. Any edit/effect/modifications are saved as new files (or
>>>>> remebered as application-settings operating on the original data).
>>>>>
>>>>> audio-editors (rezound, audacity, sweep, etc) are usually destructive:
>>>>> load file, apply effect, save file -> original file is gone.
>>>>
>>>> Audacity is import audio file, apply effect, save project (optional),
>>>> export in chosen format. It never replaces the original file.
>>>
>>> So there is a major dfference between audiofiles, you have imported
>>> and audiofiles, you have recorded with audacity -- correct?
>>
>> No, I never have. I usually use JACK, and have never been able to make
>> Audacity work with JACK. I've only done the following things with
>> Audacity:
>>
>> 1. Import 16 tracks of 32-bit WAV files (recorded on another machine
>> from my church band's Firewire interface using some Windows software)
>> and do basic mixing.
>>
>> 2. Trim and cleanup voice audio recordings made on my PDA.
>>
>> 3. Trim and convert wave files recorded using jack_capture.
>>
>> 4. Pitch shift prerecorded MP3s if needed for band members who play
>> solely by ear (if the recording's in Eb and we're playing it in D,
>> they're lost).
>>
>> If you have the time and brains needed to learn Ardour, go for it!
>>
> I think it is a myth, that Ardour is too complicated to learn for a
> beginner.

Perhaps it's a myth for others. I responded only from my own experience.

There are plenty of folk here who use Ardour and do wonderful things
with it. Advanced features? I couldn't tell an advanced feature from a
basic feature. I couldn't even figure out to simply record anything with
it, and Ardour's "automagic" setup didn't seem to include that connection.

No insult to Ardour, I'm no audio techno whiz. I figured I'd wait til
Ardour 3 is released and I have the time to learn it.

-- 
David
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