On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:25:04 +0200
Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 08:48 +0200, Tim Goetze wrote:
> > [Fons Adriaensen]
> > >If music is about 'communicating' anything, it should probably
> > >(IMHO) first communicate itself. There's nothing more boring
> > >than an artist trying to communicate his or her very personal
> > >feelings, be they sorrow or anger. The very least you need is
> > >a wider context that is relevant to others, and the music (or
> > >any form of art) that will most strongly communicate anything
> > >but itself will be the one that in which the creator himself
> > >disappears completely.
> >
> > To quote Miles Davis, "I think people want to hear music and think
> > what they want to think."
> >
> > (I think this is especially true for live performances. I -- like
> > probably most of us -- hold dear a couple of recordings exactly
> > because they so strongly express a particular emotion or state of
> > mind.)
>
> "Ausdruck befreit vom Sinn" (translated something like "Expression
> freed from any statement") - more or less the words of Christoph
> Schlingensief
>
> I can't agree with this as something good, it's evil, music is alive
> when there is a statement, when there are emotions by the artist who
> makes the music.
>
> Music made without personal feelings is a lie, a long time before we
> got scripted reality television, humans already made music comparable
> to scripted reality.
>
> It's even better to make music with emotions that belong to the couch
> doctor, than to follow Fons ideology. Sure, the musician must be able
> to stand the feedback of the audience. Take a look at old Black Flag
> videos, Henry Rollins has been laughed at. They double up with
> laughter, years later the same people who made jokes about him,
> became Fans of Rollins Band.
>
> There's no need for music to describe reality, but even fantasy
> stories without political or psychopathological statement needs true
> emotions.
>
> If the creator disappears completely, how should the music get alive?
Well, have fun with 'good' and 'evil'...
How, pray tell, would you know what the feelings of the composer or
performer was when you hear a recording? Which one matters? I'd say
that this is something you can't tell, good luck with that approach.
Regards,
Philipp
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