Re: [LAU] octaver (plugin) for bass

From: rosea grammostola <rosea.grammostola@email-addr-hidden>
Date: Tue Jun 10 2014 - 18:27:13 EEST

I'm not sure if real hardware stompboxes of this type are better then this
plugin, but this might be the kind of sound I might like to buy a hardware
stompbox for. Maybe I can test one somewhere and compare it with Gxdetune.
Thanks for the comments Fons, tips for improvement are always welcome I
think.

On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Fons Adriaensen <fons@email-addr-hidden> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 12:36:17PM +0200, hermann meyer wrote:
>
> > Without downsampling it use (well, 4xtimes more then now) 8% dsp
> > load. Most costs in the original source comes from that used values
> > are not pre-calculated.
> > But indeed, the reason for downsampling is that the limited
> > frequency range makes it sound good,
>
> because that removes most of the broadband junk that would be generated
> otherwise...
>
> > and for guitar/bass 3kHz are
> > far more then enough when you would add a octave up/down to the
> > original sound.
>
> True for bass and guitar.
>
> Still this algorithm is far from what it could be. I don't blame
> for you that, it's Bernsee who is missing the consequences of his
> own analysis (which is valid as far as it goes).
>
> Take alook at his table labeled 'pass #5'. The input signal is
> halfway between two bins. Assume we want one octave up. The expected
> output signal corresponds exactly to bin 225. For that signal, the
> output of the analysis FFT would be (similar to 'pass #1):
>
> bin amplitude
> ------------------
> 223 0.000
> 224 0.500
> 225 1.000
> 226 0.500
> 227 0.000
>
> And that is of course also what the correct input to the synthesis
> IFFT should be. Which is quite different from what the algorithm
> produces (by scaling each bin individually):
>
> bin amplitude
> -------------------
> 222 0.170
> 223 0.000
> 224 0.849
> 225 0.000
> 226 0.849
> 227 0.000
> 228 0.170
>
> The result of this after the IFFT is the correct frequency, but
> with two periods of the window applied (it will be zero at the
> center).
>
> The frequency values that are calculated provide exactly the
> information required to avoid this and to do the correct
> calculation. But it's just thrown away.
>
> Ciao,
>
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> FA
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