Re: [LAU] ground loop hell

On Sun, 2015-02-08 at 15:32 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday, February 08, 2015 02:53:28 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 09:06:40 -0800 (PST), Len Ovens wrote:
> > >It appears we have power coming from two power entrances with two
> > >different earth grounds to the panels.
> >
> > I experienced potential difference for the ground in old buildings
> > between two main sockets, less than 3 meters difference between those
> > sockets, both fed by the same power, coming from the same fuse and
> > connected to the same concrete-footing ground electrode.
> >
> > Even if the power should come from two different sources, one building
> > should have one concrete-footing ground electrode for ground, so in
> > theory there shouldn't be a potential difference.
> >
> > Buildings sometimes don't care about school books.
>
> Tisn't the building, its the idiot who did the wiring Ralf. A distinct
> possibility he was color blind or 20 years short of a journeyman card. Or
> both...
>
> I would, when something like that is found in the middle of a concert, stop
> it, tell the promoter to refund everyines money, and to let you know when
> the problem is fixed, you might save someones life, maybe your own
>
> ANY time I go into that sort of a situation where there are unknowns, I have
> oner of those little $9.95 pocket pen sized beepers that you can stick its
> insulated probe into a socket and tell in an instant if its wired per code.
> If it beeps on what should be the static ground, or the neutral slot, the
> show is off till its fixed. And it is not open for discussion. And I would
> not be the least bit retgicent about calling any other groups you know about
> and warning them. It WILL get fixed when his popular groups tell him not
> until its been fixed.
>
> That gizmo is for sale, in several flavors and colors in any home
> center/lumber yard/electrical wholesale, for various prices but are all
> pretty much identical inside. The $9.95 veersion works as well as the
> $19.95 version in my experience. And 6 or 7 years old, still running on the
> original batteries.
>
> Sometimes you really do have to be an a$$hole about that sort of thing.
>

While I agree in principle, if you play in the New Orleans area you'll
starve. I don't think there's a building in any of the old sections of
NO that is wired to code. I've been zapped so many times that I'm
beginning to glow in the dark ;-)

> Cheers, Gene Heskett

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Received on Mon Feb 9 00:15:04 2015