Re: [LAU] Electrical violin?

From: Peter Finnegan <peter.c.finnegan@email-addr-hidden>
Date: Thu Jun 04 2015 - 16:29:46 EEST

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> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 16:36:01 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Len Ovens <len@email-addr-hidden>
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> Subject: Re: [LAU] Electrical violin?
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> On Wed, 3 Jun 2015, Gabriel Nordeborn wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have experience with electrical violins? I might be looking
> to buy
> > one, although I don't know how to play the violin, but I'd really really
> like to
> > have one and try to learn. But, for my girlfriend and neighbour's sake,
> I'm
> > looking primarily at electrical ones.
>
> I am not a player either, but do know that for some notes a lot of the
> sound comes from the bridge and not the body. That is that an electric may
> be quieter than an acoustic, but still much louder than an electric guitar
> in the same way an electric guitar is louder (acoustically) than an
> electric bass. Are there no big name music stores you can rent one from
> for a week or so? or at least try one out in the store? Do you have any
> friends that play?
>
> I saw this one:
>
>
> http://www.kkmusicstore.com/cecilio-cevn1bk-black-metallic-size-44-34-or-12-electric-silent-violin-in-style-1-case-lesson-book-w-dvd-bow-more-p-377.html?zenid=94d12e24dd5f843574fb1e5d7700acf2
>
> Which (as the reviewer said) is cheap enough to be a throw away... that is
> renting will eat up that much ($130) pretty quick. (and much cheaper than
> a reasonable acoustic model)
>
> I would compare a violin to a mandolin (which I do have), but I realize
> that the violin is generally one note at a time so the trouble I have with
> stumbling over my big fingers on the mandolin may be reduced. :)
>
> --
> Len Ovens
> www.ovenwerks.net
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 21:21:29 -0700
> From: David Christensen <dpchrist@email-addr-hidden>
> To: linux-audio-user@email-addr-hidden
> Subject: Re: [LAU] Shielded electrical wiring for studio (or not)
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> On 06/02/2015 06:32 AM, Glen MacArthur wrote:
> > ... I've received a few mic
> > shocks to the lips over the years when I used to run a vintage amp
> without
> > a ground (it only had a ground lift toggle switch)... It didn't take me
> > long to upgrade the wiring to a fully grounded cord.. :)..
>
> I'm curious -- if an electric guitar amplifier has a two-conductor power
> supply cord (with hot and neutral conductors only) and a "ground lift"
> switch, what does the switch do?
>
>
> Can you provide an example make and model that has a schematic available
> on the web? For example:
>
> http://www.thevintagesound.com/ffg/
>
>
> David
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 22:19:48 -0700
> From: Sean Bolton <sean@email-addr-hidden>
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> Subject: Re: [LAU] Electrical violin?
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> On Wed Jun 3 2015, Len Ovens wrote:
> > I saw this one:
> >
> >
> http://www.kkmusicstore.com/cecilio-cevn1bk-black-metallic-size-44-34-or-12-electric-silent-violin-in-style-1-case-lesson-book-w-dvd-bow-more-p-377.html?zenid=94d12e24dd5f843574fb1e5d7700acf2
>
> I have one of these, for the very reason that I can practice on it when
> the wife and kid are in bed. It's not silent, but quite a bit quieter
> than an acoustic violin with a practice mute.
>
> What you should know if you're considering something like this: when I
> received this, the strings were too high for it to be easily playable
> (even the Chinese can't make a violin for this price and pay someone to
> set it up properly.) I spent about three hours lowering the bridge and
> reshaping the nut so it would play well. A professional luthier might
> do the same for you for $60-100. I also spent $20 on a new Wittner
> tailpiece so I'd have fine tuners that would turn easily. I then put
> an old set of synthetic-core strings on it, as I prefer those to the
> steel ones it came with. I'm now really happy with it as a
> quiet-practice violin.
>
> But I never plug it in. One reviewer on Amazon said it sounded like a
> sewing machine, and as soon as I tried it (through the headphones or an
> amp), I knew what they were talking about. Every time you change bow
> direction, there's a thump, and the sound from the strings is kind of
> thin, so as you're playing it's wheee-thump-thump-thump-thump.
>
> So you get what you pay for. I'd expect to spend $600 or more for an
> electric that arrives well set up and sounds halfway decent. Check out
> the Yamaha Silent Violins--I though even the low-end model was fairly
> decent.
>
> HTH,
>
> -Sean
>
>
> Another lifelong violinist chiming in here :) I personally prefer my
acoustic violin amplified by microphone and good soundman. However I have
used a Barcus-Berry pickup for convenience and for those smaller gigs when
playing in a combo and everyone brings their own amp.

I would try this one out, though:
http://www.sharmusic.com/Instruments/Electric/Beginning-0--550/SHAR-Electric-Violin-Outfit.axd#sthash.0o7K1wR6.0BeX9eAF.dpbs

I have used Shar for years for violin gear; they specialize in bowed
strings and even their low end instruments are playable.

-Best wishes

Peter

-- 
Peter Finnegan
http://finneganmusic.net
Dynamic music for your special occasion
http://www.finetuningmusic.com

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