Re: [LAU] limits.conf nice rtprio

On 08/19/2017 01:16 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
> This was adequately discussed on jack-devel over the last 14 years.
>
> It took a very long time for qjackctl to stop exposing the options that
> were not intended to be "exposed" to regular users. Finally this has
> happened, which is great. In the meantime, a lot of people played around
> with things that are now on the "Advanced" tab, and often got into
> trouble (which is partly how we gradually came to understand that they
> probably weren't meant to be exposed. Cadence did a much better job of
> *not* including these options from the beginning, which is one reason
> why people could often get JACK to "work" when starting it there.
>
> And yes, the man page does not explain it either, just like the man page
> for most other *nix software.

Just funnin' with ye, my attempts at a few witty comebacks
  to liven things up, thanks for your patience as always ;-)
You're right, there's already an Advanced tab for this.

Cheers. And to list.

> On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Tim <termtech@rogers.com
> <mailto:termtech@rogers.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 08/18/2017 10:10 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
>
> I am no longer involved in JACK development.
>
>
> Sorry, I think I'm having trouble with my mail reader -
> darn Thunderbird, cuts off lines sometimes.
> I missed the second half of your reply - the part
> which logically proceeds to tell us which options
> should not be exposed.
>
> Tim.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 9:05 PM, Tim <termtech@rogers.com
> <mailto:termtech@rogers.com> <mailto:termtech@rogers.com
> <mailto:termtech@rogers.com>>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 08/17/2017 11:34 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
>
> The fact that jackd has a --foobar option does not mean
> that a
> GUI front end for jackd should expose it. The
> developers of JACK
> were/are hackers/tinkerers and were egged on by other
> hackers/tinkerers to make as many things possible as we
> could.
> This might be good for hackers/tinkerers but it doesn't
> make it
> good for most users.
>
>
> Open your jack1 code. Add shortened words to that effect on
> each experimental command-line option you want. Push. Done.
>
> QJackctl team then then adds an "Experimental" tab, and moves
> option items to it, that you marked so, or hides them
> completely -
> it's their decision.
>
> Advanced tab = "Yeah, you might need these."
> Experimental tab = "Hands off, fool!"
>
> Problem solved. Everyone happy. No?
>
> T.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 8:51 PM, Tim
> <termtech@rogers.com <mailto:termtech@rogers.com>
> <mailto:termtech@rogers.com
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> <mailto:termtech@rogers.com>
>
> <mailto:termtech@rogers.com
> <mailto:termtech@rogers.com>>>> wrote:
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>
>
> On 08/17/2017 01:59 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
>
> When you've spent years dealing with people
> screwing up
> their
> JACK installations/configurations by messing with
> parameters
> which were never really meant to be exposed to
> users,
> you will
> definitely be "Advanced".
>
>
> Ah, you want the "not nice" setting.
>
> Tim.
>
>
> Maybe there are other ways to get there.
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Will Godfrey
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> On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 12:05:46 -0400
> Paul Davis <paul@linuxaudiosystems.com
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> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM,
> Jaromír Mikeš
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> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > ​
> > > What about my 2nd question?
> > > In qjackctrl Settings -> Advanced
> ... there is a
> "Priority"
> option ...
> > > It corresponds to -P cli option
> > > For what is it good and how it
> should be used?
> > >
> >
> > ​It's under "Advanced". That means ...
> if you
> don't know
> what it
> does,
> > don't use it, or adjust it. ​
>
> I find that response surprising,
> unhelpful and
> quite wrong.
>
> How can anyone discover whether they need
> to use a
> feature
> if nobody
> will tell
> them what it does?
> How does one become 'advanced'?
>
> --
> Will J Godfrey
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