Subject: Re[2]: [linux-audio-dev] OT CPU Fans
From: Rick Burnett (destinytech_AT_spacey.net)
Date: Thu Jun 06 2002 - 02:29:29 EEST
And talking with two friends, I think the evidence points there. Two
friends had blown Athlons after one month. Both had fan problems, one
quit altogether and burned it out within minutes. (Smoke) Second I
think the fan was just not cool enough.
Rick
Wednesday, June 05, 2002, you wrote:
BC> Agree with most of the stuff below, but there is one difference between
BC> the Intel and AMD chips you might find important. We put a fair amount
BC> of effort into the Pentium 4 to have it self-monitor its temp. If it gets
BC> too hot, the processor throttles its own performance until it has cooled
BC> down. The idea is that if a fan fails, or the cooling vents are blocked,
BC> it's better for the machine to keep running than to take a chance on the
BC> CPU becoming permanently damaged. Reading Tom's HW page, I get the distinct
BC> impression AMD did not provide this same facility.
BC> -BobC
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BC> Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] OT CPU Fans
BC> Tom Browne wrote:
>> The 0.13s dissipate much less heat than the widely available AMDs...
>>
>>>According to these specs, my athlon XP 1600+ has a typical power
>>>consumption of 56.3W. A 1.6G pentium 4 has a spec of 60.8W.
>>
>> Why compare to the old pre-0.13 chips?
>>
>> Celeron 1.2A is rated at 30W.... P4 1.6A is rated at 38.7W.
BC> Yeah, well my point is not that you can find a pentium that is cooler
BC> than an athlon if you compare certain models of chips across particular
BC> generations of manufacturing -- it's that blanket statements like
BC> "athlons are hotter than pentiums" aren't true.
BC> When *I* bought my CPU, there weren't any 0.13 chips, and the AthlonXP
BC> was genuinely cooler than the P4! Intel has moved to a new process that
BC> gives them better power specs, but soon enough AMD will do the same and
BC> then their chips will be cooler instead, and then the cycle will repeat
BC> again...
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