Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Acid for Linux ?
From: Brian Redfern (bredfern_AT_calarts.edu)
Date: Mon Dec 09 2002 - 20:06:29 EET
Well, we're not that far off from this type of functionality as you might
think, from what I'm reading of ardour's new features (with pitch and
tempo editing), muse/jack/ardour is just about there. There's already
soundfont support in muse now, so you can do very complex midi sequencing
without the need for external midi gear (and once I'm dont converting the
world card sounds in my asrx pro into sound fonts it can go up on
ebay!). Rather than more apps what is needed is more volunteers to work on
muse and ardour, or if you can't do c/c++, why not donate some $$ to their
authors.
On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, Linium wrote:
> Le Dimanche 8 Décembre 2002 22:24, vous avez écrit :
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> > Matlab (or Octave? Yikes!!) to make music. Heh, I feel pitty for the guy
> > that actually did it -- it must have been pure hell to describe music in
> > mathematical terms.
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> I would say it is great to have the both. Obviously.
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> > Right now, ACID 4 supports ASIO, DX, VSTi softsynths, midi I/O, routing in
> > and out on anything available by your hardware, effects automation.... give
> > it a score support and will beat anything hands down (maybe we'll see that
> > on version 5?).
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> That's true Acid seems to embrasse very simple midi scoring even in the 4.0
> version and there is softsynths.
> In my precedant post to Patrick i said acid is kind of a multitrack editor,
> it is much more than that now. So i agree Acid can be taken as an all-in-one.
> I was a little wrong in my answer. Although i would be very happy to have
> only the audio editor which is the historic base of acid, and where belongs
> its specificity imho.
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> >...the problem is that we don't have that much to
> > put on that big "rack" that JACK provides us. Or, at least, we don't have
> > much of it working the way ACID does.... "painting" music.
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> That's it. BTW it should be noted that JACK is more or less a clone of Rewire
> that exists for years under Windoz, another Steinberg innovation although
> Rewire work only for the apps that comply to the (not-open ?) standard.
> (i guess).
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> > be long gone. Yes, you've guessed right, CSound would be completely useless
> > for me. Call me dumb, but I simply can't "connect" to this way of thinking.
> > I've done my share of perl programming so I'm not a complete "virgin" in
> > the coding area. Yet programming and artistic expression have no sharing
> > fields in my mind. And I don't think that I'm alone on this one.
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> I jump on this comment from Gerasimos, in fact i am very happy to be able to
> return to a classic midisequencer like Muse. I was a great fan of Logic years
> ago. Then i got interested in Csound, in the same time in Linux and lost
> interest in big sequencer.
> Theses day i still use PD to make musical algorythms but MusE is my way to
> gather the audio tracks with some midi parts along too.
> I couldn't do a song purely in algorythm. :))
> Concerning Csound i don't use it much, but it is great to be able to
> integrate it. Even if rarely, to make weird textures for instance.
> In fact on a musical forum website some other people have started a thread
> about Csound and i have seized the opportunity to reinvest some interest into
> Csound thru a starting collective project... I am quite happy... in fact we
> want everything... ;)
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> Linium (who really have the impression to speak english as "feu" the
> commandant cousteau ;))) let's say it's just an impression...
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