Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Hardware incompatibility list
From: Mark Knecht (markknecht_AT_comcast.net)
Date: Thu Aug 26 2004 - 18:14:35 EEST
I always enjoy you're 'pre-coffee' messages the most!
some very good comments here.
thanks!
- Mark
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 06:50, R Parker wrote:
> I haven't read it either and probably won't. My
> reaction is to put myself in the shoes of a
> manufacturer. My response wouldn't positive or
> possibly indifference. Maybe the campaign is being
> presented in a positive way, I wouldn't know.
>
> > Anyway, I think one of the goals is to put pressure
> > on the hardware makers to
> > provide specs/drivers, which sounds like a good idea
> > to me.
>
> At the age of 43, I've begun to notice that the
> pressure method fails to get me what I want. I'm a
> slow learner. :) "You will be my girlfriend, work a
> full-time job, pay the bills and bare my children. I
> will write songs. Is their anything you don't
> understand?"
>
> I think persisting with requests is a good strategy.
> Maybe our methods need to be sharpened up. We have
> www.linuxaudio.org where part of the objective is to
> deal with issues like this.
>
> >From the perspective of a manufacturer, we are not
> interesting because our numbers aren't great enough to
> return an investment or pay for ongoing costs. Our
> argument is that we're a low cost, self sufficient
> investment.
>
> I think we could select devices and find developers
> who are willing to write the drivers. Then sell our
> community and the developer to the manufacturers. From
> any business perspective, we have almost nothing to
> offer. I know that sounds harsh but it isn't all bad.
> We can be honest, respectful and carefully ask for
> help.
>
> <example_letter>
> Dear Manufacturer,
>
> We are asking you to assist the linux audio community
> by contributing item X. In return, we offer our
> gratitude and the "pie-in-the-sky" promises of a
> thriving young community. Our current accomplishments
> include; alsa drivers for X, Y, and Z. The
> applications that these devices are used with include
> X, Y and Z. Demographic statistics for our community
> can be found at www.linuxaudio.org. Upon recieving
> device X, you can expect Developer X, resume attached,
> to release a working linux driver by date X.
>
> As a rule, our community takes great pride in solving
> all challanges at no cost to contributing
> manufacturers and always fulfilling our agreements.
> </>
>
> The demographic statistics must exist and should be
> favorably presented; trends, etc.
>
> What hardware do we need, firewire stuff?
>
> OFF TOPIC NOISEY RAMBLE
> Part of me is satisfied that linux audio does not
> participate in consumorism that's being appealed to in
> every trade magazine. On a personal level, the need to
> consume is a veneer to mask any lack of discipline and
> talent that's required to produce great music. Along
> these lines, my current conondrum is whether or not to
> upgrade my drum kit.
>
> I began to study drums about a year ago. I average
> three hours of disciplined study every day. I focus on
> applying rudiments to the kit. The objective is to
> play every pattern bottom up or reversed to top down
> and left side start or right side start. I have a
> vision for the type of kit that would serve my
> objective. I know it would be much better than the
> typical layout that I have. To assemble it, will cost
> another $1,000.00. When I explained it to a friend who
> has been drumming for 30 years he laughed and replied,
> "ohhhh now you're innovative but the truth is that
> you're a dumbass." We both laughed. I am having so
> much fun learning to play the drums, why ruin the
> experience by do something stupid like spending money?
>
> Well, those are my rambling pre-coffee thoughts.
>
> ron "the anti-consumer" parker
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