On 10/27/2015 09:21 AM, Nils Gey wrote:
> Gradus Ad Parnassum is a really bad method, musically as well as
> pedagogical, with little connection to the actual counterpoint methods
> of the 16th century (or later).
> It leads to music that you cannot find anywhere in the real music world.
So what? I'm not judging the efficacy of the tool at all.
>
> I doubt any of the composers you mentioned actually used that. If you
> think so otherwise it needs more than claiming that they did. Show
> falsifiable evidence.
Just reading the preface of the translation by Mann
"Haydn took infinite pains to assimilate the theory of Fux. [...]
laboriously writing out the exercises".
"Mozart studied Fux's work under the influence of his father" -- copy
with father's notes still exists in Salzburg
"Beethoven himself subsequently wrote out an "Introduction to Fux's
Study of Counterpoint".
Brahms' copy with notes still exists ...
//
>
> Nils
>
> On 10/27/2015 01:15 PM, David Santamauro wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/27/2015 06:23 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>>> On 27.10.2015, at 06:16, Luigino Bracci <lbracci@email-addr-hidden> wrote:
>>>>
>>> Resume: If you want to play hobby music in the style of other artists
>>> some software tools make it easy to do so, but you never will find
>>> your individual style. If you want to make art, you have to find your
>>> own sound, this is time consuming and comes with a long learning
>>> curve, you can't do it as easy as playing hobby music.
>>
>> Simply amazing that the likes of Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Berlioz,
>> Chopin, Rosini, Paganini, Liszt, Brahms and numerous others (including
>> myself) spanning 2 centuries used the same counterpoint "tool"[1] to
>> learn and yet somehow managed to develop their own individual style. Of
>> course, we look back on history and study the influence such a treatise
>> had on their style but I don't think you will find anyone claiming each
>> wasn't individual.
>>
>> A tool is a tool. It doesn't create, hamper or destroy artistry.
>>
>> David
>>
>> [1] Gradus Ad Parnassum, Johann Joseph Fux
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