Re: [linux-audio-dev] User Interface

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Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] User Interface
From: Richard Guenther (rguenth_AT_tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de)
Date: Thu Jul 26 2001 - 18:09:24 EEST


On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Paul Davis wrote:

> >> Its partly politics
> >> (they wanted to provide more reasons for people to use GNOME) and
> >> partly development issues (GTK+ was under a feature freeze).
> >
> >I dont think so.
>
> This is not speculation on my part. I've been told so by people who
> work on both GTK+ and GNOME for RH.

Ok, so be it. Still no reason for me to duplicate the work done by
the GNOME developers.

> >apt-get install gnome-dev
> >or
> >rpm -i gnomed
>
> Do you know how long this would take on my connection? About 35 times
> as long as "cvs -z3 update -dP && make clean && make all && make install".
> Thats another reason I like CVS :)

If your connection is limited, use a CD set - GLAME doesnt require
up to date versions of any lib it depends on.

> >> XFree86 or even GTK+, it wouldn't be a problem. But as it is, trying
> >> to do development of an application against a library base that
> >> changes quite often is very difficult.
> >
> >Yes, so you dont develop against a moving target, but against the
> >stable version (we're not building against gtk2.0 f.i.) - or you at
> >least dont _depend_ on such libs, but only support them, if available
> >(like we do with certain alsa versions or liblameenc to mention two).
>
> Well, even with GNOME, I've run into problems with applications in at
> least two areas: imlib seems to change fairly regularly, and just as

Imlib is broken. Dont use it.

> regularly breaks applications that were doing funky things, and libxml
> has also been subject to many bug "fixes" that periodically break
> XML-using code. Thats why I prefer to tell people to "get
> libimlib-blah-blah" and "get libxml-foo-foo" than "install GNOME"
> because there's no way to know if they'll end up with the libxml that
> doesn't properly list all child property nodes under some
> circumstances or ...

Well - you get bugreports, you fix your code. Its bad to require
libxml-1.8.7-3 and nothing else - just fix your code to work with
any known libxml.

Richard.

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