Re: [linux-audio-user] Gnome/Alsa installation?

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Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Gnome/Alsa installation?
From: Mattt (mattt_AT_expressnet.net.au)
Date: Fri Aug 23 2002 - 03:56:52 EEST


On Fri, 2002-08-23 at 10:19, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> mattt, not true:
>
> on debian, there are two types of dependencies: "suggestions" and
> "dependency". a suggestion is merely that: a suggestion. a dependency
> means "can't exist without the other package".

agreed

>
> esound is listed as a "suggestion" for all the gnome packages i can
> think of.
>
> this means, if you uninstall esound, apt-get should ask you if you
> "really want to do this". however, removing esound will not uninstall
> gnome.
>
> if you don't believe me, give it a try:
>
> satan# apt-get --dry-run remove esound
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> esound
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
> Remv esound (0.2.23-3 Debian:testing)
>
> the --dry-run option is very similar to make's "-n" option. it tells
> apt-get to not really do the operation for reals.
>

yup - you're right. my system wanted to also remove gkrellm, but that's
an aside... well, i don't know what i was thinking of - i also tried
faking out removal of other core esd components, and met with the same
non-fatal conclusion every time...

>
> note, i don't think the rpm format has a concept of "suggestions" and
> "dependencies" like debian does. the rpm format simply has
> "dependencies". so if you attempt to uninstall esound on redhat,
> mandrake or suse, rpm may simply refuse to do so without a --forcing the
> issue.
>
> between people saying that "redhat has more drivers than other distros"
> and "the low-latency redhat patch" there's quite alot of FUD on
> this list.
>

heartily agreed.

> pete
>
>
> begin Mattt <mattt_AT_expressnet.net.au>
> > If the RH deps are anything like the deb one's, that would be the
> > command used to remove Gnome entirely (and the package is 'esound' - on
> > Debian, anyways)...
> >
> > On Fri, 2002-08-23 at 07:10, Frank Barknecht wrote:
> >
> > > $ rpm -e esd (??) # I'm not sure about the "-e", I'm on Debian
> >
> > --
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> >
> > I always wanted to be someone. I should have been more specific...
> >
>
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