Re: [linux-audio-user] The Open Music Resource Library, a few questions

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Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] The Open Music Resource Library, a few questions
From: iriXx (
Date: Mon Dec 23 2002 - 01:23:47 EET

hey, no, dont apologise.
this raises important and interesting questions.... especially given
that we all know certain groups, no names mentioned, who have gone to
some fairly extreme lengths to discredit the GPL. i think your concerns
about security are valid and often overlooked.

i've taken the liberty of dropping you a line privately (rather than get
further OT with a plug for my book!) but i'd be really interested in
discussing this with you further.

m~ (miriam)

Darren Landrum wrote:
> Okay, I feel like I should apologize to the list for this diatribe. I am
> sorry if I offended anyone or broke any rules.
> I just want to make it clear that the Open Music Resource Library is not
> a napster for Acid loops. That's all. (You know, I should change the
> topic to reflect the new name of the library.) (... And done.) :)
> Also, I would like to thank everyone for your input, feedback, and
> offers for help. I feel that this library site will be built, and will
> be successful, and it will be because of the community, and all of us here.
> And with that, I need to go back to prepping my new house for painting.
> I'll be back on later tonight.
> Regards,
> Darren Landrum
> On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 03:39 PM, Darren Landrum wrote:
>> Yes, it is regrettable. It is regrettable that there are people out
>> there that are not to be trusted. It is regrettable that many of those
>> self-same people would stoop to such actions as uploading a loop or a
>> sample set that they have no rights to *because* they want to damage
>> such open initiatives.
>> I very highly doubt that anyone I've talked to on this list would ever
>> be the cause of such problems.
>> And yet, there are people out there who are malicious because they
>> like to cause trouble, or sometimes even because someone is paying
>> them. Then all it takes is a pack of attack lawyers. It's happened
>> before, and it can happen to us.
>> I do not want to implement any DRM measures. I simply want to catch
>> people trying to do such things as I described above and be able to
>> deal with them, quietly if possible.
>> Personally, I think a web of trust is the best way to go. If we make
>> accounts difficult to get, and to spoof, then users uploading illegal
>> materials will (hopefully, anyway) leave behind an audit trail that
>> can lead us to them.
>> Remember, we aren't just talking about audio loops and samples, here.
>> You could gzip up some illicit jpegs featuring some activities that
>> would make your stomach turn, not to mention attract the authorities
>> to the ones running the system. Unfortunately, file shares like this
>> one are ripe for that kind of abuse if proper steps aren't taken. (As
>> a side note, we had already figured out a way to deal with this kind
>> of activity, but I leave it here as an example.)
>> Sorry if I rambled on my soapbox a little too long, but this is a sore
>> point of mine. You just can't automatically trust everyone. You need
>> some checks and balances in the system.
>> Regards,
>> Darren Landrum


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